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August 6, 2013 - 12:27 am
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I'm about to fabricate a new bow sprit and I was wondering if there's some trick or methodology to holding all the existing rigging in place that's on the nose while I remove the old bow sprit and put on the new one? In other words, will the mast stay put while all that rigging is laying to one side on the deck or somewhere else?

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You don't need the stay sail stay at all, just something to replace the fore stay. You can use your jib halyard or spinnaker halyard. as far as attachment points you have  a few options. First you can just run it down and around that short extension of the boat under the bowsprit, second is you can run it through one of the hawse pipes port or starboard. You are not going to have a lot of tension on it as you are going to loosen up all the rigging before starting to detach the fore stay and the stay sail stay. you can connect the halyard before you detach the stays and tighten it up a bit to create slack in the stays you are detaching as an alternative. The lower stays/shrouds port and starboard and upper stays port and starboard will hold the mast in place by themselves just sitting at the dock. However I would hand tighten the back stay and the spinnaker or jib halyard along with the rest of the rigging so that it is snug but not tensioned while you have the fore stay off.

 

We replaced all of our rigging this way. Removed one stay at the time and replaced it without any other support for the mast. Everything was hand snugged up to just barely slack and we went up and down the mast removing a stay and then pulling another up and putting it into place.

 

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August 6, 2013 - 9:33 am
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Thanks again Scott. Good solid, common sense  advice.

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Does anyone know the approximate weight of the bow sprit on a DE 38?

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hmm... not really.. I would say greater than 50 lbs... its a pretty substantial chunk of wood... but im just guessing.

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I would guess closer to 80 lbs. but I am guessing as well. It is about 8 feet long and approximately 8 or 10 inches square at the base. I remember someone replaced their bow sprit with steel Chanel. That can't be too light. I calculate the steel I would need to close to 100 lbs.

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yep I remember seeing that. I would be tempted to go that route if I replaced mine. Stainless though 🙂 That or go out in the woods and find a oak the right size to cut down ... Build a solar kiln and dry it and probably salt treat it to slow rot.. 🙂 Then fabricate the bowsprit.. ..or laminate one out of store bought wood.. all kinds of ways of doing it. Table saw and a big belt sander are your friends for fabrication... those are what I used to make our spreaders.

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Mine's got some rot as well.  I'm not looking forward to doing a replacement, but I suppose I will have to.  I'm thinking of metal myself, but that's because I weld.  Stainless channel and some weld tabs for the rigging would be perfect.

 

Regarding the weight, stainless steel has an excellent strength to weight ratio so it's possible that the metal one you saw was just overbuilt.

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FYI, there's this picture that I found.  I think it looks pretty slick: http://sundownersailsagain.com.....ing-boats/

I just checked.  2x2x1/4" 304 Stainless is 6lbs per foot.  If the bowsprit is 10 feet long, that's still 60 lbs.  If you add on a Samson Post to the bowsprit (round tube + bars welded to the bowsprit), plus tabs and fasteners I still don't see it adding up to more than 75 pounds. (http://www.industrialmetalsupp.....less-Steel)

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Finally got new steel bow sprit fabrucated and installed. Materials were under $100.
Will post pics later on. Looks great.

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very cool... write it up and send all the pictures 🙂 or post it here.. I have a feeling that is a up and coming project for us in the next couple years.

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How do I post pics again! Ive forgotten.

Oh no. I'm using an iPad running the safari browser. I don't see the tool bar with the picture icon on it.

any ideas?

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did you ever get those pictures? I would really like to see what you did on that bowsprit replacement.

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