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Replacing your Stainless Chainplates with Bronze Chainplates
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Scott Carle
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October 16, 2009 - 8:45 am
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I just read this fairly cool thread  at http://www.briontoss.com/spart.....php?t=1949 on replacing stainless chainplates with bronze.. We still have to pull the chainplates and inspect them and the bolts on Valkyr.. the look good on the surface so it is just a preventive measure to make sure just what they are like where we can't see them.

Has anyone here ever used or changed out the chainplates for bronze.

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carmine
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November 7, 2009 - 8:09 pm
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Hi Scott:

I replaced all of the chainplates on TOPAZ  ('75 DE38)  four years ago - I opted for 316SS fabricated by Tops-in-Quality.  Some of the original chainplates were showing signs of crevice corrision so I changed them all out.

I did not conider using bronze but I think that bronze might have been a better selection - no crevice corrsion and no fatigue - I also toyed with the idea of putting them on the outside of the hull ( better for inspection and no cap rail leaks)  but also opted for the original thru rail configuration -

what are the downsides of bronze?

also note:

The chain plate (fitting?) for the bob stay failed about 12 years ago.  It was a curious assemble with a solif plate sticking out thru the stem weldled to a 3/16 rod assembly that was glassed into the hull.  I opted for an internal 316SS assemply consisting of plates in a V shape that were epoxied to the inner hull - based on a surveyors recommendation but I think that external straps that can be inspected would have been a better way to go.

Carmine

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Scott Carle
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November 8, 2009 - 6:58 am
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It's interesting.. Valkyr has external chain plates and they look stock. Unless a prior owner replaced the teak toe rails there was never a slot cut in them for the chain plates. I won't be able to tell for sure till I inspect the current chain plates and pull the bolts to examine them (externally they look good). I should be able to see from the inside if there was ever any other system in place. If the current chain plates have issues I will probably replace them with bronze. I can get a sheet of of it and simply cut and drill them myself.

Valkyr is a 79? I wonder if in the last years built if they moved to external chain plates at the factory? does anyone else have any knowledge about this? New and older models, how is your boat set up?

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May 3, 2011 - 2:41 pm
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Rewaking an old thread...

 

I took off one of the lowers on OneLove (and '81) as there's a crack in it, visible to the naked eye. This seems to be the time I should replace all of them, especially given another three have rust on the bolts on the inside, though the outsides look okay. There was a lot of rust in between the one I took off and the hull and at the point where the crack is extra rust and some hull compression.

Scott - to help in your statistics our CPs are on the outside. This is cool but to get to the bolts on the inside I had to destroy some of the interior as there had been a fair amount of custom cabinetry built on top of the original fittings. This is really a catalyst to get some other work done....

Not I'm at home with my one chainplate and wondering about bend angles. The lowers all have the same bend but I'm wondering if its made at differing angles across the CP (i.e. not perpendicular to its length). Anyone have designs for them? Perhaps I'll just have to go back to the boat and check!

There were no backing plates - I *think* I'm going to cut the originals down a little and use them as backing plates for the lower bolts (not sure I can do this in the top bolt which is pretty tight in the toerail.

 

-Tom

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If you don't have backing plates then anything you do inisde is a help.

I still haven't pulled valkyrs chain plates but think it will happen in the next couple months. I will be loosening the rigging to put a new/used roller furling on the staysail stay as well as doing some work on the existing jib roller furling and replacing the bobstay. We will see. 🙂

 

I would definately make sure you can easily access the chainplates in the future. Building cabinatery that you have to disasemble to get through to work on them is in my opionion a safety issue. Wonder if a prior owner did that or if it was factory?

scott

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