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What boat, if not a Downeaster?
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Jonathan Oasis
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March 10, 2013 - 10:00 pm
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If there were no Downeasters for voyaging..

Maybe I would have taken to a Westsail 32, though they are simple looking.  Always liked the decoration of the Nor'Sea 27 though it's a bit too small; the 37 is too big (41' LOA).  Recently I looked at a couple Tartans, great design for the 34' though small tanks (LWL only 30').  I'll admit there is no way a Beneteau would ever cross my mind.  Another contender would be a Han Christian 33, at least one without teak decks, very livable.  Even without considering price tag I still seem to prefer low-30's LOA.

If price were no obstacle - what other boat?  

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Scott Carle
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March 12, 2013 - 10:16 am
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Price no object 🙂 ?

hhhehehe

 

I would build a twin keel steel 40 footer to my own design 🙂 with the help of a naval designer.

 

features:

  1. Pilot house!
  2. Bilge keels to dry out on her own bottom. Wouldn't have to haul out to do bottom job or work on through hulls.
  3. Twin electric motors that lower into the water off the transom.. Just a lot deeper than an outboard. Large battery bank in the top of the keels and a Generator to power the motors. (this gives you no prop shaft through the hull as well as the ability under sail to have no props in the water. Twin props 🙂 nuff said!!
  4. Aft stateroom with bed you can get into from the side 🙂
  5. Traveller for the main up on a arch and out of the way.
  6. Hmm. actually I would go to a junk rig. Not sure if single mast or twin mast..
  7. Masts free standing carbon fiber 🙂
  8. Inside and outside steering stations
  9. twin transom hung rudders. Maybe even integrated into the electric motors.

just the short list 🙂 sigh... i need to find pirate gold, win the lottery, have some random rich person donate money to the cause 🙂 lol.

I think it would be buildable for about half a million with someone else building most of it.

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I always liked the Formosa's for for tradewind sailing. I'd go with the 56 if cost were no object.

 

For more "expedition" style voyaging,I'd have Perry or Brewer design me a ~45',  steel hull boat with long fin bulb keel,  skeg hung rudder,  maybe a pilot house,  maybe a schooner rig. Something like that would do nicely.

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Jonathan Oasis
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Wow so far two votes for full custom voyaging ships.  I would prefer a very common design myself which is why I have liked Westsail too —avid fan base and lots of ideas and people offering supplies.  Of course with money as no object then everything could be custom,but whatcha gonna do off a small island when the designer isn't available while a bunch of catalina parts are in the yard for the taking. [Image Can Not Be Found]

The other one I forgot was the one chosen by several short-handed circumnavigators.  S&S 34

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26S_34 

Based on the old wooden boat hull form. Fast and livable.

 

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March 25, 2013 - 10:03 am
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I don't see where the custom boat would be any harder to repair/fix.. especially if built in steel. Steel is really easy to cut and weld new pieces in or to modify.  It's not like you can buy stock parts from downeaster anymore either 🙂 I just finished fabricating my new  fiberglass and wood hard dodger top on valkyr and the amount of fussiness and time it took to build it over welding a metal one up is insane. I have over 100 hours of labor in building it. Fiberglass is easy but very time consuming to get it right. Lol.. at least for me it is.

 

That s&s design looks nice though..

 

overall I will most likely spend the rest of my life in a used boat 🙂 I definitely don't have the money to build a new one. its a nice dream though

 

scott

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