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Erick
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October 10, 2011 - 4:47 pm
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I need to begin to make decisions on the direction I will take for refrigeration on Windsong (DE38).  

 

What sort of refrigeration system do you have on your Downester?  What do you like and don't like about it?  If you could go a different direction (brand, design, or otherwise), what would you do?  

 

The first decision I need to make it to go with a conventional system or go with an all-in-one unit.  For a conventional system, I will beef up the insulation of the icebox before installation; and for an all-in-one unit I would need to figure out where to keep it.  

 

The all-in-one units I am referring to are ones like these:  http://www.nationalluna.com/NLR90.htm

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October 11, 2011 - 5:02 am
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Previous owner installed an A/B compressor unit (uses R-134a) and I believe the box is the original.  Compressor seems to work great –it makes ice very easily.  Placed under the aft salon seat nearest the center line.  Newer ones have quick-reattach plugs or such.  The one big failure is the fan chosen by the engineers on this unit.  The bearings have died —it started making horrible noises and during a heat wave this summer,completely froze up.  So basically,a $1600 fridge ruined by a $20 computer fan!  I've ordered a couple replacement fans and it turns out I can reduce the fan amp requirements (from 0.45A to 0.30A) while engineering a better airflow myself (which could reduce running time or improve heat transfer efficiency).  The airflow concept seems vastly overlooked in terms of compressor placement.  The fan shouldn't just blow onto the coil which sits inside a locker..  it should move the air in on one side and out on another side.  Hence I'm upgrading my unit with two fans:an intake and an outtake.

 

For a completely new system, I believe a lot can be said for getting a standard home/auto commercial fridge unit (top loading, made for RV's, likely), throwing away the internals and keeping the box, placing the box somewhere suitable onboard, then installing marine-compatible compressor system with it. 

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June 14, 2012 - 5:09 pm
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Hi Erik -

 

Eolian's refrigeration is a 12V powered Grunert unit (charged with R-406, I believe) located under the stove.  It is water-cooled and serves both the refer (1 holding plate) and the freezer (2 holding plates).

 

I would not change the setup.  I have rebuilt the refer from the inside out, replacing all the old polyurethane foam - most of which was fully saturated with water.  I have not yet done the freezer, but given that it is the freezer which seems to drive our need to run the compressor, I would surely love to, tho I suspect that getting at the space between the freezer and the hull would be exceedingly difficult.

 

bob

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