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Electric toilets that will fit the de32?
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mgav451
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September 24, 2019 - 8:49 pm
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Hope I'm not wearing out myveelcomevwith all my posts! I've got alot of projects half started that lead to delays or beginnings of multiple other projects to properly complete the task at hand. So after finding today that the awlgrip I painted my new Sitka spreaders with gassed off and ruined. Looks like I'll be sanding them back down and trying again... In the meantime I'm eyeing up the head...

 I have a Wilcox Crittenden headmate and I'm looking to remove and replace with a mascerating head. Looks like the footprint is only like 6" so it doesn't look like alot will fit? Does anyone have an electric head that fits? Or is there a mascerating pump I can add onto to the headmate? 

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No worries about posting. that's what it is all about. 🙂

I can't advise on your head.. standard head and or composting I could comment on. I would say that we really love our composting toilet. We got rid of all the plumbing and holding tanks as well as odor. Recovered a shit load of space where the tank and plumbing was. Lost a lot of weight forward. Over all after living aboard with it for years we considered it one of our best upgrade/changes.

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So I want to change over to a composting toilet, the problem seams that the head will have to modified as in eliminating the sink and counter area and facing the toilet fore and aft sitting facing forward. the smallest I think is the air head, although, the natures head could fit with this mod. any thoughts will be apprciated. thanks. Ray.

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June 24, 2020 - 6:07 pm
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I looked at composting I don’t think I could do the whole seperate urine thing.

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The separate urine thing is the one downside in my mind to having to deal with it. With two adults living full time aboard we had to change the containers every 2 to 3 days. You do not want to over fill the container either. Though on the natures head the place the container sits will catch any overflow without letting it go everywhere it is a mess. We kept a flashlight in the head, which is just good sense anyway, to take a quick look at the level before using it. (flashlight beside companionway, in vberth and in head at all times.) What makes your life very easy with the urine is getting two spare urine containers. That way you can take one out cap it off and put empty spare in head. There is no getting around that emptying the urine containers is nasty. Especially if you take them to the marina restroom and pour them down the toilet. The odor in a closed room is just not good. However outdoors over the side of the boat is not terrible at all. Just do it downwind 🙂 No different than for a man doing his business off the side of the boat. With three containers you can keep a good rotation going that for two people you only have to dump it once every four to six days. For one person that is going to be every eight days to two weeks.

I have not had a single boat that we haven't had leaks out of the holding tank due to over filling, leaking hoses, replacing or even worse repairing the standard marine head etc... Those are some of the nastiest situations you will ever deal with. It's not if it will happen it just is when. Every boat owner that has owned a boat more than a year or two will have that story. Normal head also ties you to pump out stations and pumping out :(.  Our DE38 when we got it was the worst situation imaginable. It was the final straw for us. See three part write up below.

http://downeasteryachts.com/ar.....hives/1366

http://downeasteryachts.com/ar.....hives/1707

http://downeasteryachts.com/ar.....hives/2887

Even if you have the mythical never leaking standard head system with holding tank the hoses eventually start smelling, the toilet starts stinking. I have never been on a boat other than a new one that it didn't have that odor in the head compartment with more than half the boats you could smell it through out the boat.. Just part of that normal background odor of diesel, musty and head odor that tells you your on a boat. After we cleaned up and put the composting head in we have had zero odor for I guess about a decade now. Not sure.. diesel and if the boat is closed up for a while a bit of musty but even then you go below and looking for it and go, oh.. not bad even closed up for a few months. We actually installed one of the nature's heads in one of the bathrooms at home because every other year we lose power for hours to days from a hurricane going through where we live and power outages and lack of water pressure become an issue for going to the bathroom within hours if not minutes of the power failing.

The posts in the links above talk in detail about how to for composting head ownership and usage. Probably a few threads on the forums you can find that also go into detail on a search for composting.

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June 26, 2020 - 5:18 pm
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Hmm good info..so you have a natures head? Do you know if the 32 and the 38 have the same toilet foot print? My heads already been a pain in the ass ( get it? Ha ha dad joke). I’m ready EPROMs get rid of it?

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i have little hands on with the DE32 but I would say they should be identical.. They both would be designed to use a standard marine head

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