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I have own The Cutter Barbara Ann for 23 years she is the same as the day I got her. She has been sailed up and down the east coast with a out hitch.....after a 5 hours on a broad reach we turn into the wind and took down the sails and starter the motor and put her in gear at 2000rpm she came out of gear........after going to 500rpm and back up again she came out again.......we made it back to port as long as we stayed at about 1800rpm. The boat is 33years old and I keep very good care of her.
A) anyone had this kind of thing happen?
B) can you still get one of these trannys?
C) anyone try to put one them self's?
D) If I have to cut the shaft can a new one be put in from the inside of the boat.....don't want to have to take rudder out of the boat
Any help
Toasted F. Oates
A Tin Can Sailor,
Master of the Cutter Barbara Ann,
Catcher of Giant Fish,
Drinker of large quantities of rum,
Member of NY Mailer's Union No. 6,
Maker of a Major Metropolitan Newspaper,
And a Pirate looking past Sixty.
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I don't know about the transmission. Will be interested in that myself.
I have heard of people pulling and replacing the propshaft without pulling the boat out of the water. My understanding is that they lifted the engine straight up far enough to pull the prop shaft out from the inside.
I think this involved having someone outside the boat in the water pulling the prop and then plugging the hole as the shaft goes through it to keep from flooding the boat.
You would have to disconnect all lines, hoses and things attached to the engine as well as detaching the motor mounts. Take the companionway stairs out and then lift straight up with a chain lift. I would guess a 4x6 or so layed across the aft end of the cabin over the companionway with the chain lift attached to that would work. I would look at replacing the motor mounts at the same time as you will have the engine in the air anyway.
Someone just mentioned doing this in the last month or two and I can't remember where they did so or who it is. However they said they had done it several times.
scott
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Well she is back in the water there is no HBW 10 trannys anymore which what was in there . It was replaced by HBW12 which bolt right up. I had my yard do the job with me doing the grunt work coast $5,000 and worth every dime. Only took them 4 hours to get every thing out and 3 to put it back in. The only hitch was getting a new coupler.
So what did I get for my 5,000..... boat in and out of the water, drive train in and out of the boat, new tranny, coupler, shaft, stuffing box, and cutlass bearing.
Time out of the water 14 days most waiting for parts.
Toasted F. Oates
A Tin Can Sailor,
Master of the Cutter Barbara Ann,
Catcher of Giant Fish,
Drinker of large quantities of rum,
Member of NY Mailer's Union No. 6,
Maker of a Major Metropolitan Newspaper,
And a Pirate looking past Sixty.
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How did they pull it? by pulling the engine or by sliding the propshaft back and pulling just the tranny?
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Scott Carle said:
I don't know about the transmission. Will be interested in that myself.
I have heard of people pulling and replacing the propshaft without pulling the boat out of the water. My understanding is that they lifted the engine straight up far enough to pull the prop shaft out from the inside.
I think this involved having someone outside the boat in the water pulling the prop and then plugging the hole as the shaft goes through it to keep from flooding the boat.
You would have to disconnect all lines,hoses and things attached to the engine as well as detaching the motor mounts. Take the companionway stairs out and then lift straight up with a chain lift. I would guess a 4x6 or so layed across the aft end of the cabin over the companionway with the chain lift attached to that would work. I would look at replacing the motor mounts at the same time as you will have the engine in the air anyway.
Someone just mentioned doing this in the last month or two and I can't remember where they did so or who it is. However they said they had done it several times.
scott
I blew the original tranny that was with the Farymann in 2005 in Tarpon Springs,Fl. ,it was a better idea to put in a new yanmar ym30 than rebuild the tranny. We lifted the old one out and put in tthe new engine using a come-along and a 6X6 on the above,worked great. I had to take it out again and ship it to Georgia to have it gone through be Yanmar and again did it the same way,we pulled the prop and pulled the shaft out from inside. I just changed the cutless bearing and shaft and packing out of the water and just pulled the back of the engine up enough to take out the shaft. I replaced the shaft,cutless bearing and had everything back together in 2 1/2 hours. To get the engine out of the boat we used the main halyard and a line from the dock behind the boat and pulled the engine to the dock off the side of the boat.
Scotty
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Scott Carle said:
How did they pull it? by pulling the engine or by sliding the propshaft back and pulling just the tranny?
We cut the saft and lifted the engine right out the companionway.....took of the prop and pulled everything else in to the boat I have picks but don't know how to get them on here
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Barbara Ann said:
Well she is back in the water there is no HBW 10 trannys anymore which what was in there . It was replaced by HBW12 which bolt right up. I had my yard do the job with me doing the grunt work coast $5,000 and worth every dime. Only took them 4 hours to get every thing out and 3 to put it back in. The only hitch was getting a new coupler.
So what did I get for my 5,000..... boat in and out of the water, drive train in and out of the boat, new tranny, coupler, shaft, stuffing box, and cutlass bearing.
Time out of the water 14 days most waiting for parts. I also took out the mounting plates had them glass beaded and painted, also took off all the hard edges, also put in DF100 engine mounts rated for 850 lbs this drive train is like a rock now......we all know that in the old cofig. everything on the stove would rattle, no more
Toasted F. Oates
A Tin Can Sailor,
Master of the Cutter Barbara Ann,
Catcher of Giant Fish,
Drinker of large quantities of rum,
Member of NY Mailer's Union No. 6,
Maker of a Major Metropolitan Newspaper,
And a Pirate looking past Sixty.
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Nice...
I'm hoping I don't have to do anything like this anytime soon. I think our engine has around 2000 hours but it runs like a top when it runs. Every issue we have had is fuel related or not getting fuel to the engine. I got it all fixed and then found the fuel leak in the fuel tank. 🙁 sigh ... its always something.
scott
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