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I'm pretty well sick and tired of getting water in the cockpit all the time while on passage. So I think I'll be adding some combings between the aft corner of the cabin and the winch bases on Bodhran. Has anyone out there tackled this project? Any advice?
Jason
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I haven't but it is on my list of things to do. We did a 8 hour trip this past summer where we were going hard to windward in 8ft seas and every 15th wave or so would put about 100 gallons of water over the bow on port. It would all run straight back into the cockpit and into the foot well. Everyone was soaked by the end of the day. I would put some drains in it to let water such as rain that ends up in the cockpit to drain forward through it to the drains. I don't think everything in the cockpit will drain into the foot well. I will have to take a hose and test how water drains from different parts of the cockpit.
in a sorta related note.. What have people done to keep water out of the Propane locker. The design on valkyr has no lip or anything, any water that flows over the cockpit locker just flows around the lid and into it. The above voyage put enough water into it to fill it totally and the drain got plugged up. We didn't realize it till a month later. We weren't using the propane system at the time so we didn't realize that the solinoid was damaged etc. etc... It was aright mess to clean up and We had to pretty much replace everything there.
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Hi:
It has been on my list for a while now.
FYI, Jerry, (the guy who started the owners group but his last name escapes me), posted pictures of his approach to the problem on a personnel WEB site that he still might maintain. The picturtes were gone the last time a checked several years ago but you might track hime down and he could re-post them.
I think that he had the work done in Trinadad.
Carmine
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I've started making cockpit combings for Bodhran. Ideally I would have redesigned the cockpit locker on the port side to allow the combings to be further inboard, but I didn't feel like tackling that project right now. So the combings are a little far outboard to be really comfortable backrests, but they do allow for a wide enough area to still sleep in the cockpit. I decided to integrate the corner of the cabin and the winch bases into the combing. I'd been having problems with overrides with my jib sheets since I moved the tracks up on to the caprail, so I raised the winch bases up 3 inches which allowed the combings to be a uniform height all the way across. I've glassed in a half piece of 1 1/4" pvc along the back of the cabin for a drain. I'm gonig to try and screw a hinged flap on the outside of this pipe to keep water from coming in from the outside. Here's a couple of pics from before I started glassing them in.
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I'll throw up a few more pics when I finish the project and let everyone know how they work.
Jason
DE32 Bodhran
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I like that Jason. It will look awesome when you get finished.
I had been thinking about this and will probably try a much simpler solution before going to something like what you have done if imy solution doesn't work. I thought that a couple of brackets or board 1/2x1/2 about 5/8 of an inch apart fixed vertically on the cabin wall and then accross from that on the inside bulwark wall that you could drop a 5/8 inch piece of plywood, fiberglass, plexiglass etc.. into.. so when in nasty conditions you just drop it in place and then the rest of the time just just pull it out of the way. Maybe put a 3 or 4 inch wide piece of teak accross the top edge to step on when crossing it. It's just a thought. You would probably need to drill small holes allong the bottom edge to let water in the cockpit drain forward to the drains there.
Scott
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So I've got my combings just about done. I've been sailing around a bunch while I've been working on them so they've been getting done in stages. Right now I still need to get another coat of paint or two on the combings and then shape the teak winch bases which are over hanging a bit. They fit fine on the old bases, but with the taper of the combing, my new lewmar 40s fit, but the teak bases stick out.
Here's the almost final pics:
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Jason Rose
DE32 Bodhran
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Jason,
That is very nice. I like that it gets the winches up off the deck and easier to access and looks like it will do a great job of keeping water out of the cockpit. It also gives some good back support for people leaned back over there.
I noticed on the starboard side picture that your jibsheet tracks are on the teak cap rail. Did you move it there? How do you like it there as opposed to down on the deck?
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I did move the tracks up to the caprail. The 32 came with ridiculously short 1" tracks. I decided to beef them up to 1 1/4" and move them outboard so that I didn't have to worry about the leads around my stanchions. It also allowed me to install 10' long tracks which give me lots more range for my asymmetric spinnaker to my storm jib. Actually just roller reefing the jib, I end up moving the leads up to about the boarding gate, so the long tracks have paid off well. I think that the cap rail is a better attachment point than the foam cored deck, though I wasn't able put nuts on the bottom side of the track, but I did epoxy pot each of the screws on the new track. The only problem has been the angle to the jib sheet winches, but new combings have taken care of that.
Jason
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Just finished my first passage since I put the new combings on Bodhran and they performed beautifully. We had a day of 25-35 knot winds on the beam with 10-15 foot seas. In this circumstance, I do just fine sailing along at 5.5 knots with double reefed main and staysail, but occasionally a wave rolls Bodhran over and dips the rail sending gallons of water back into the cockpit. Well not anymore, the combings not only keep the trickles of spray that come over the windward side out of the cockpit, but also those gushing torrents that used to come from the dipped rail. Now I find I'm going to need to beef up the drains on the side deck as the cockpit drains used to do most of the work draining the big seas that came on deck. I'm also getting a bit of water on the windward side that pools up along the cabin and doesn't have a place to go. Still it's better to have to step in a puddle going forward than to have all that water end up in your lap back in the cockpit.
Jason Rose
DE32 Bodhran
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