Downeaster Yachts.com - Topic: Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit Simple:Press Version 5.6.7 Scratch on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p578 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p578 Yeah, that is the way I am leaning now.  It doesn't make much sense to set up a single line system knowing that there are so many possibilities of failure and also knowing beforehand that sail shape will be comprimised.  I'll be home from offshore in the new year and if it's not too cold I may try to rig something up then.

]]> Sat, 18 Dec 2010 00:32:18 -0500 Scott Carle on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p576 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p576 If you can afford the hardware I think a single line to the clew and a seperate one to the tack willl work very well. It will have much much less friction in the system as well as allowing you to get much better sail shape based on how you can attach it.

scott

]]> Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:24:38 -0500 Scratch on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p574 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p574 What do you think about running the two lines per (clew and tack) back to the cockpit?  The clew would be straigh forward and I could run a line from the gooseneck (anchored) up through the luff reef cringle, down to a deck mounted block and then aft.  It may require being directed towards the mast prior to the deck block and it would mean double the reef lines to the cockpit but if I really want to run them aft it may be a sollution.  I may be over engineering this.  This is most likely why the previous owner installed the sissy bars at the mast!

]]> Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:17:45 -0500 Scott Carle on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p572 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p572 On the positive side I loved how fast I could put a reef in the main on my F235 with the single line reefing brought back to the cockpit, mabye 60 seconds all told where before with jiffy reefing it took 4 or 5 minutes because I had to go to the mast to hook  the tack to the reefing hook.

]]> Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:48:04 -0500 Scratch on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p570 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p570 Scott,

 

I agree with you, I think a bit of research and advice on this is well worth it.  As of right now I have nothing other than main and staysail sheets run to the cockpit.  I figure I'll start by running the halyards aft and then I may run a two line reefing setup aft.... This way I am sure that friction and sail shape can be accounted for.  We'll see....

Winter is Canada tends to be expensive... I have too much time to come up with modification ideas!

]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:35:01 -0500 Scott Carle on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p569 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p569 I set up single line reefing on my 23ft boat.. It worked great when it worked but once in a while I would get twist in the lines and it would jam up.. It was a pain in reefing conditions to free it up. I can't imagine how difficult it would be on a main the size of a DE38. The other dowside is that single line reefing doesnt set the shape of the main as well as jiffy. having the tack attached to the reefing hook  lets the main keep a good shape compared to most single line reefing which lets the tack move a few inches aft of that.

 

It might be worth testing or hearing from someone that has done it on a DE38 or DE32 though.

]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:17:25 -0500 Scratch on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p567 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p567 I'm not sure about the raised cabin top on a DE38, I don't know if it is any highter than that of a DE32.  I'm still working out the details of how I'd do it on ours.  I am thinking about a piece of teak that would raise the cabin top mounted turning blocks a little.  Then I would install the deck organizers aft, just on top of the raised portion of the cabin top.

I'm still on the fence about this whole issue.  It would clutter up the deck but it would lessen the number of times I have to go forward...maybe.  I do have sissy bars (pulpits) at the mast so there is lots to brace yourself on but I also have three your daughters, and for those days that my wife is down below or not out with us, it would be nice to leave them alone in the cockpit for as short a time as possible.

I was thinking about running the reefing lines on one side and the halyards on the other.  Right now we are setup for jiffy reefing but the single line reef setup would be a relatively minor mod.

That brings me to another dilemma...single line reefing...

I can't help but think that the added friction, possibility of tangles/twists, etc may out-weight the simplicity of a single line setup.

 

Scratch

Nova Scotia, Canada

]]> Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:43:58 -0500 Erick on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p566 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p566 I am also interested in this.  The DE38 has the raised cabin-top ahead of the cockpit that the lines must go over, I've never been sure how that would work.  

]]> Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:15:00 -0500 KachemakRa on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p564 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p564 I know Freezone, owned by R. W. Smith, on Lake Texana, Texas (OK border) did it. I believe it is the only way to go. Hopefully you get instructions on how the best way to do it.

 

Kachemakra

Homer, Alaska

]]> Sun, 12 Dec 2010 08:31:27 -0500 Scratch on Running lines aft to cockpit http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p563 Sails and Rigging- Standing and Running http://downeasteryachts.com/forums/sails-and-rigging-standing-and-running/running-lines-aft-to-cockpit#p563 Has anyone run their lines aft to their cockpit on a DE32?  I'm thinking about doing this and any advice or insight would be helpfull.

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