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		<title>Comment on New boat and owner registry by jimd1105</title>
		<link>http://downeasteryachts.com/archives/2828/comment-page-1#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>jimd1105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there.  I have a 38.  SN 99.  Drop me an email  James_dillman@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.  I have a 38.  SN 99.  Drop me an email  <a href="mailto:James_dillman@yahoo.com">James_dillman@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on DE32 Saffanah&#8217;s recent paint job by scotty</title>
		<link>http://downeasteryachts.com/archives/2800/comment-page-1#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been on the boat when Dana &amp; Ricky owned her. I really like the arch in back, have it done in Marathon ??? We will be there again this year for awhile, heading down now from Alabama.

                cheers
                scotty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on the boat when Dana &amp; Ricky owned her. I really like the arch in back, have it done in Marathon ??? We will be there again this year for awhile, heading down now from Alabama.</p>
<p>                cheers<br />
                scotty</p>
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		<title>Comment on April Sailing s/v Seabird by Scott Carle</title>
		<link>http://downeasteryachts.com/archives/2751/comment-page-1#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Carle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophi messaged me a link they found for building legs to dry out the boat without laying her over :)
thanks sophi!!

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance-articles/20077-giving-your-boat-some-legs.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophi messaged me a link they found for building legs to dry out the boat without laying her over <img src='http://downeasteryachts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
thanks sophi!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Careening Seabird a DE32 by Scott Carle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Carle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 13:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep thats me :) curious to see if anyone has ever done it and what the results were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep thats me <img src='http://downeasteryachts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  curious to see if anyone has ever done it and what the results were.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Careening Seabird a DE32 by sep2x</title>
		<link>http://downeasteryachts.com/archives/2723/comment-page-1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>sep2x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott -- it probably could &quot;handle&quot; it, but why would you want to do that? I know that even in yards when boats are on stands that the weight of the keel is meant to rest on the ground, the stands are just for stability. If you use a fixed seawall or pilings for your stability and rest the weight on the keel, as we did, it shouldn&#039;t be a risky thing for your boat. If you rest it on your side, I would think that the rising tide would wash down your companionway hatch before the boat floated again?? I have never heard of anyone doing it this way, I&#039;d be curious if anyone else has..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott &#8212; it probably could &#8220;handle&#8221; it, but why would you want to do that? I know that even in yards when boats are on stands that the weight of the keel is meant to rest on the ground, the stands are just for stability. If you use a fixed seawall or pilings for your stability and rest the weight on the keel, as we did, it shouldn&#8217;t be a risky thing for your boat. If you rest it on your side, I would think that the rising tide would wash down your companionway hatch before the boat floated again?? I have never heard of anyone doing it this way, I&#8217;d be curious if anyone else has..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Careening Seabird a DE32 by Scott Carle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Carle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think as long as you didn&#039;t fall over that one of our boats could easily handle being careened on their sides much less just leaning into some pilings. That would be a good question. has anyone ever actually fully careened their DE on it&#039;s side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think as long as you didn&#8217;t fall over that one of our boats could easily handle being careened on their sides much less just leaning into some pilings. That would be a good question. has anyone ever actually fully careened their DE on it&#8217;s side?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Careening Seabird a DE32 by Eolian</title>
		<link>http://downeasteryachts.com/archives/2723/comment-page-1#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Eolian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sophi - 


That is reassuring.  But the process still scares me to death.  &lt;i&gt;Eolian&lt;/i&gt; is heavy...  just having a little lean toward the dock would still mean substantial pressure there, but with only a little lean, it would seem to be precarious...

bob
s/v Eolian
DE45 #11
Seattle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sophi &#8211; </p>
<p>That is reassuring.  But the process still scares me to death.  <i>Eolian</i> is heavy&#8230;  just having a little lean toward the dock would still mean substantial pressure there, but with only a little lean, it would seem to be precarious&#8230;</p>
<p>bob<br />
s/v Eolian<br />
DE45 #11<br />
Seattle</p>
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		<title>Comment on Careening Seabird a DE32 by sep2x</title>
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		<dc:creator>sep2x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I was wrong -- at this location there were no waves at all and Seabird rested gently onto the bottom (which was a little pebbly). It was on Peaks Island a week later, when we painted, that there were some waves causing the careening to take a few minutes longer than it did in the post above. 

Sophi
s/v Seabird,DE 32
Portland,Maine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I was wrong &#8212; at this location there were no waves at all and Seabird rested gently onto the bottom (which was a little pebbly). It was on Peaks Island a week later, when we painted, that there were some waves causing the careening to take a few minutes longer than it did in the post above. </p>
<p>Sophi<br />
s/v Seabird,DE 32<br />
Portland,Maine</p>
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		<title>Comment on Careening Seabird a DE32 by sep2x</title>
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		<dc:creator>sep2x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob,

Seabird was steady as a rock once she was careened. The thing we didn&#039;t mention in the blog was that it was not the best-protected place to carreen, so there were little waves lifting us off the sand and putting us back down for about 15 minutes before she settled down completely -- that was annoying but the bottom was soft so it didn&#039;t do any damage. 

We careened our first boat, a Catalina 27&#039;, and she was much less stable. We did not remain aboard at all when she was on the hard. With Seabird we just tried to stay off the very tip of the bow, but she felt quite secure. With Neptune (the catalina) she did tip forward a bit, but then the lines we had tied caught her and she just sat sort of funny til the tide came in again. I can&#039;t imagine that at DE would tip forward, the weight of everything in the keel will keep her down! If you&#039;re still worried about it I might move your anchors and chain to the stern just for safety&#039;s sake, and try to find a place to careen where there isn&#039;t much wave action so that once she sits, she&#039;s sitting solidly.

Best of luck!

Sophi
s/v Seabird, DE 32
Portland, Maine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>Seabird was steady as a rock once she was careened. The thing we didn&#8217;t mention in the blog was that it was not the best-protected place to carreen, so there were little waves lifting us off the sand and putting us back down for about 15 minutes before she settled down completely &#8212; that was annoying but the bottom was soft so it didn&#8217;t do any damage. </p>
<p>We careened our first boat, a Catalina 27&#8242;, and she was much less stable. We did not remain aboard at all when she was on the hard. With Seabird we just tried to stay off the very tip of the bow, but she felt quite secure. With Neptune (the catalina) she did tip forward a bit, but then the lines we had tied caught her and she just sat sort of funny til the tide came in again. I can&#8217;t imagine that at DE would tip forward, the weight of everything in the keel will keep her down! If you&#8217;re still worried about it I might move your anchors and chain to the stern just for safety&#8217;s sake, and try to find a place to careen where there isn&#8217;t much wave action so that once she sits, she&#8217;s sitting solidly.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
<p>Sophi<br />
s/v Seabird, DE 32<br />
Portland, Maine</p>
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		<title>Comment on Careening Seabird a DE32 by Scott Carle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Carle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 21:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,
I have never seen that, where they blocked the bow. I can&#039;t imagine one of our boats tipping forward anyways. It&#039;s a pretty long straight keel under there even with the bow sticking out past it.

In my recent haul out experience they just put some 4 or more  8x8&#039;s under the keel and set the boat on them and then put 4 to 6 jack stands on either side of the boat to support it upright. They keel takes the full weight of the boat. I would imagine that a DE45 would be even harder to tip forward :) I would bet that your yard is just following best practices or some such even when not needed as a sort of standard procedure. I&#039;ve been trying to picture any full keel boat I know of that would tilt forward if not blocked and can&#039;t bring a single example to mind. 

Granted that I can&#039;t claim universal knowledge about all boats. Anyone else have an opinion on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
I have never seen that, where they blocked the bow. I can&#8217;t imagine one of our boats tipping forward anyways. It&#8217;s a pretty long straight keel under there even with the bow sticking out past it.</p>
<p>In my recent haul out experience they just put some 4 or more  8&#215;8&#8242;s under the keel and set the boat on them and then put 4 to 6 jack stands on either side of the boat to support it upright. They keel takes the full weight of the boat. I would imagine that a DE45 would be even harder to tip forward <img src='http://downeasteryachts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I would bet that your yard is just following best practices or some such even when not needed as a sort of standard procedure. I&#8217;ve been trying to picture any full keel boat I know of that would tilt forward if not blocked and can&#8217;t bring a single example to mind. </p>
<p>Granted that I can&#8217;t claim universal knowledge about all boats. Anyone else have an opinion on this?</p>
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